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| RockGolf |
Posted - 06/25/2009 : 23:05:11
The Thriller's Gone?
The Ghoul is Mine?
He Outta His Life?
Death reported on both TMZ.com & LATimes.com.
Wow... |
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| Whippersnapper. |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 20:22:10
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Originally posted by Ro�k G01f, MD+
that she said she had pumped Jackson's stomach on several occasions.
Bubbles' lawyer quit when his client would stop throw feces at him.
That's funny.
I heard his lawyer was working "pro bonobo".
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| RockGolf |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 19:57:54
The mother (Rowe) has expressed in print that she doesn't expect to raise the kids or even see them again, although that could change.
The nanny was recently fired by Jackson, although he had fired & hired her several times. She also said several unfavorable things in disputed tabloid article. She has denied that she said she had pumped Jackson's stomach on several occasions.
Bubbles' lawyer quit when his client wouldn't stop throw feces at him. |
| silly |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 19:30:07
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper
And there's even a rumour that Bubbles has hired a legal team to fight for custody.
Maybe Madonna can fit them in.
Brangelina is probably sad to be knocked off the front page of the tabloids, first by Jon and Kate and now Celebrity Death Match 2009. Maybe they can lend a hand. |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 15:54:45
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
I wouldnt jump to conclusions about custody.
It could also go to the birth mother(s).
Or the maid has been mentioned as a possible guardian.
And there's even a rumour that Bubbles has hired a legal team to fight for custody.
Maybe Madonna can fit them in.
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| Whippersnapper. |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 14:28:01
I wouldnt jump to conclusions about custody.
It could also go to the birth mother(s).
Or the maid has been mentioned as a possible guardian.
And there's even a rumour that Bubbles has hired a legal team to fight for custody.
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| RockGolf |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 12:56:12
I can't believe that Michael kids are going to end up in the supervision of this guy (and Michael's mother). Both are over eighty, they have no genetic connection to the kids. (The mother has now stated that Jackson was not the father.)
But most of all, Joe Jackson was an exceedingly abusive father by all accounts, including Michael's own. |
| Whippersnapper. |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 12:38:13
Psychoanalysts call this Projection.
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| damalc |
Posted - 06/29/2009 : 12:08:24
i just saw a kinda odd clip of dad Joe. he said something like, he wished people would have shown their appreciation for Michael when he was alive. WTF?! |
| RockGolf |
Posted - 06/27/2009 : 03:03:41
 ...bloody Mozart. Spoiled for everyone he did! |
| randall |
Posted - 06/27/2009 : 01:21:54
It's not a matter of whether or not you can stand MJ's music, any more than Beethoven's or Ravel's or Philip Glass's. All God's children are free to their opinions [although I personally couldn't give less of 1/2 of a shit about the opinions of certain particular fwiffers].
But did the Beatles, MJ, Mozart, change popular music? Yep, they all did. Like it or not, ignorant or not, earless or not, the change has been made, no matter how any atonal bleating clangs against a final, futile echo. |
| Sean |
Posted - 06/27/2009 : 00:48:45
I think I'd better point out here that even though I could never stand MJ's music, there's no doubting his massive significance. The hundred(s) of millions worldwide who love his music can't be wrong. I can't stand the Beatles's music either. 'Nuff said...
BTW Salopian, it's possible to say "I don't like MJ's music" without declaring that the music is inherently "so-so" and by implication that the millions who absolutely love it are guilty of poor taste. There is nothing wrong with saying YOU dislike the art, but attacking someone else's taste in art commonly angers them. |
| Sean |
Posted - 06/27/2009 : 00:34:13
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Originally posted by Salopian
I was always especially uncomfortable with the fact that many black people still held him in high regard and were prepared to pretend that his colour change was a skin condition. What a bad example he set.
Errmmm... I thought he suffered from vitiligo? Have I missed something?
Another article on vitiligo.
Some pictures of it.
Edit:- Yep, MBI has also mentioned it. |
| MisterBadIdea |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 21:01:38
Uh, yeah, guys, vitiligo is an actual condition and depigmentation is considered a legitimate (though not without issue) method of dealing with the problem.
Salopian is under no obligation to like Michael Jackson's music. I myself am much more of a Prince disciple than I am of M.J. That's not really the point. And "the horrible things he did"... well, that's up for debate. I myself have never seen a case that proved one way or the other what he may or may not have done to any little boys. A much more verifiable crime is that he accused his record label of being racist, when in fact he received more record label support than any black artist in history and never took a stand on black issues in his life. Many have said he was a bad man. Many more have said he was an insane man. Maybe they were right.
But is he going to be forgiven whatever crimes he may or may not have committed? Yes. Yes, he is. Because he's dead. Michael Jackson is, as of 3:15 p.m. yesterday, a historical figure. It is the time to praise Caesar, not to bury him. Michael Jackson's legacy is complicated, and the bizarreness of the last half of his life difficult to ignore, but there comes a point not to speak ill of the dead. Henry Ford had noxious racial views, Winston Churchill was a sexist drunk, and Martin Luther King cheated on his wife, but to focus on those things is to bypass the significance of those men's lives. I don't mean to elevate Michael Jackson to that level, but the simple fact is that he inarguably changed the pop landscape, and if you care at all about the world of popular music and even if you don't, you recognize the profound influence he has had on it. You don't even have to like that influence -- I myself have doubts that it was for the better -- but the world has, and should have, acknowledged the passing of a man who did, in fact, change the world we live in. So if all you have to say about the man is "I wonder what will happen to the children that he bought," maybe you should shut up. |
| Salopian |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 18:03:45
I find his music, or all of it that I can think of, so-so. That's just a fact. It doesn't do anything for me.
MguyX, I'll address your more important points later, when I'm not on my mobile. |
| damalc |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 17:24:26
quote:
Originally posted by Ro�k G01f, MD+
It is no exaggeration to say that Michael Jackson, for better or worse, has shaped what current pop music sounds and looks like.
It's also hard to believe that until "Billie Jean", MTV wouldn't play videos by black acts. Columbia records had to threaten to withdraw every video they had before MTV gave in.
Good call for MTV.
With the emphasis on video and high-productions albums, he set the standards for Prince, Madonna, and just about every pop idol since. Before Jackson, what you sounded like was more important. After Jackson, what you look like is the more critical factor.
my musical taste was shaped by Michael Jackson and MTV. in the old days of MTV, MJJ was the only black artist it played. so when John Lennon was killed and other kids at my high school were in shock, i was like, "who?" i've learned better since.
anyway, Run-DMC eventually snuck into Music Television's rotation. i would sit through hours of Journey, Motley Crue, Twisted Sister, Duran Duran, Genesis and many others waiting to see the black music.
however anyone feels about MJJ's eccentric (that's what they call RICH crazy people) lifestyle, his stamp on music and culture cannot be underestimated. you know you can still do the Thriller-video dance.
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