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RockGolf 
"1500+ reviews. 1 joke."

Posted - 06/30/2008 :  16:02:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I should have a new rule: Don't watch movies filmed in your home town. Especially areas you're familiar with. The whole of the Banner meets Ross at a college in Virginia section was filmed at the University of Toronto, so I spent of the time trying to identify the buildings. They reused one of them in the New York section too, so the same building (Convocation Hall) exists in both Manhatten and Virginia. Then the climactic battle, supposedly on Broadway in Harlem, was actually filmed on Yonge St, including the iconic 2 storey neon Sam the Record Man sign. I kept trying to figure which storefronts had been covered up and which were originals.

Spoiler: If the Hulk & Blonski can both tear vehicles apart bare-handed, why couldn't Blonski (the Abomination) snap the chain Hulk was using to choke him? End spoiler

Four points I haven't seen elsewhere which delighted a Marvel geek like me:

1. There's at least a couple of other Marvel characters listed on the same directory as the one Banner used to find Betty Ross. One was Scott Lang, the 2nd Ant Man.
2. When Gen Ross uncovers the machine used to irradiate Blonsky, the tag reads in part "Developed by Dr Reinstein". In the comics, Reinstein was the inventor of the Super-Soldier Serum that created Captain America. (It was later revealed that "Reinstein" was an alias.)
3. Sterns is clearly being set up for a sequel as the gamma-effected genius The Leader.
4. The guy who played the pizza parlour owner, Stanley, was played by Paul Soles. About 30-40 years ago, Soles was the original television voice of Spiderman/Peter Parker.
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  13:54:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Savoir Faire


This film should not be rated pg-13. It should be rated NC-17. Is it now impossible to get rated NC-17 for violence?



Don't you understand the meaning of "PG"?

My friends who have young teenagers get me to go and see these movies first or go themselves and then judge for themselves whether to send their children.

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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  14:08:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does PG-13 work like 12A? Can thirteen-year-olds go on their own?
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  15:20:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the US, yes. The only age restriction is on R or above, "PG" means what it says, the parents are supposed to decide, but they don't have to give their kids a note so that they can buy a ticket or anything.

Actually with online ticketing and picking it up at a machine, do they even watch to make sure underage kids don't see R rated movies anymore?
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  15:27:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silly

In the US, yes. The only age restriction is on R or above, "PG" means what it says, the parents are supposed to decide, but they don't have to give their kids a note so that they can buy a ticket or anything.

I'm still not clear. Can under-thirteen-year-olds see a PG-13 with their parents? That is how 12A works. Twelve-year-olds do not even need the theoretical permission of their parents.
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  16:23:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian


I'm still not clear. Can under-thirteen-year-olds see a PG-13 with their parents?


Sorry, I was rushing off someplace and gave a half answer.

Here's the official rules.

quote:
A PG-13 rating is a sterner warning by the Rating Board to parents to determine whether their children under age 13 should view the motion picture, as some material might not be suited for them. A PG-13 motion picture may go beyond the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, adult activities or other elements, but does not reach the restricted R category. The theme of the motion picture by itself will not result in a rating greater than PG-13, although depictions of activities related to a mature theme may result in a restricted rating for the motion picture. Any drug use will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. More than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating, but such nudity in a PG-13 rated motion picture generally will not be sexually oriented. There may be depictions of violence in a PG-13 movie, but generally not both realistic and extreme or persistent violence. A motion picture�s single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, initially requires at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive requires an R rating, as must even one of those words used in a sexual context. The Rating Board nevertheless may rate such a motion picture PG-13 if, based on a special vote by a two-thirds majority, the Raters feel that most American parents would believe that a PG-13 rating is appropriate because of the context or manner in which the words are used or because the use of those words in the motion picture is inconspicuous.


It's just a warning. Like "I strenuously object, Your Honor."
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  16:25:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wasn't it one of the South Park guys that said 'if you kiss a tit, it's rated R, but if you chop one off with an axe, it's PG-13'

That was after the Team America World Police ratings debacle.
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Mr Savoir Faire 
"^ Click my name. "

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  18:27:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by silly

In the US, yes. The only age restriction is on R or above, "PG" means what it says, the parents are supposed to decide, but they don't have to give their kids a note so that they can buy a ticket or anything.

I'm still not clear. Can under-thirteen-year-olds see a PG-13 with their parents? That is how 12A works. Twelve-year-olds do not even need the theoretical permission of their parents.



Yes. In fact, anyone can see an R movie with their parents. ('R' is the rating above Pg-13 that is under 17 can't buy tickets without theoretical parents permission)

NC-17 (above 'R') is technically the only rating with an age restriction in the US.
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  18:30:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That all seems a bit lax to me. I don't even like 12A. The rules should override the fact that some parents are not careful about what their children see.
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  18:34:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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That all seems a bit lax to me. I don't even like 12A. The rules should override the fact that some parents are not careful about what their children see.


Pfuh. I say take the restrictions out entirely. It isn't the theater's responsibility to decide whether a kid is emotionally mature enough to see Hostel Part VIII.
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  00:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea

It isn't the theater's responsibility to decide whether a kid is emotionally mature enough to see Hostel Part VIII.

Quite. Nor should it be left to parents. It's the government's responsibility, hence there should be a strict age-only basis as there are with other decisions before which one should be at a certain level of maturity, such as voting, drinking, smoking or joining the army. None of those powers varies on a person-by-person basis.
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  00:50:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, NO.

I respectfully but firmly disagree with your political beliefs, Salopian. I do not want the government making decisions like this about my kids. The government should not be parenting my kids. They don't decide what food they eat, what TV they watch, what books they read, or what music they listen to.
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  00:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the kind of thing that parents think, but it doesn't actually make any sense. If there are ages at which certain things cannot be done, they should apply to everyone just the same, not at the whim of parents. You don't decide at what age your children can have sex -- why should you decide at what age they can see sex on film?

This is not about restricting the freedoms of parents -- it's about protecting those children who have negligent parents.
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RockGolf 
"1500+ reviews. 1 joke."

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  14:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wondering, when Hostel Part VIII comes out on DVD, how will you enforce selling it only to homes with no children? For that matter, when it comes to cable uncut, how does the government ensure only homes with adults subscribe to the channel?

I won't let my kids (13 & 14) watch South Park or even Family Guy, because it show really horrible behavior without consequences, but I'd be ok with them watching "Braveheart" or "The Godfather".
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Mr Savoir Faire 
"^ Click my name. "

Posted - 07/03/2008 :  19:55:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea

It isn't the theater's responsibility to decide whether a kid is emotionally mature enough to see Hostel Part VIII.

Quite. Nor should it be left to parents. It's the government's responsibility, hence there should be a strict age-only basis as there are with other decisions before which one should be at a certain level of maturity, such as voting, drinking, smoking or joining the army. None of those powers varies on a person-by-person basis.



Technically the MPAA rates the movies in the US, and it is not affiliated with the US government. It is the theatre's responsibility to protect children with negligent parents and they should do a better job rating films.
For instance, Jaws, despite frontal nudity and gore, is rated PG, even upon re-release.
However, The ghost and the darkness, with no nudity or cussing, and not too much violence either, is rated 'r'.

To say that adults should watch all the films before they let their children do so is silly. It is too time consuming and that takes away hours from your free time. Plus, do you really not want to be able to drop your kids off at a theatre?

Rockgolf, do you truly believe that your 13 and 14-year-old don't watch family guy and South park when you're not around? That's of course, a different issue, I'm just curious to see what your response is.
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