| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| bife |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 02:23:07
The last thread demonstrates why this isn't fun any more, it's probably my fault but i just don't care anymore.
Maybe I'll come back refreshed and reinvigorated in a couple of weeks, maybe I wont. |
| 15 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| RockGolf |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 19:38:10
All I can add is Bifernow. |
| RockGolf |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 19:37:16
^
Agreed. Joyce originally wanted Ulysses printed in a spiral notebook so that the reader could start on any page and read thru to the page before that. |
| Beanmimo |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 16:29:34
quote:
Originally posted by MguyX
For anyone else who may be confused by the references, this is the thread to which our esteemed bife refers. Took a little searching, but I found it ... right under this one.
-Regrets: I've Had a Few
Well, I am sad that I missed JTC's avatar. I was hoping that it was the same avatar I first used when the Fourum came into existence (the cartoon one with the guy saying "I can explain"). Was it bife who noted back then "I knew I could count on MguyX to go over the top on this"?
- Bonfire of the Vanities
I would have been flattered, were it a reference to me or Salopian, if I were Salopian. On the one hand, I would take it as an homage to my earlier incarnation, however identical. The were-I-Salopian me would have felt similarly proud: how bold of Josh to declare an open desire to make love to me! SWEET! After all, the phrase was not "Sully_Salopian": the word "sally" means to rush or burst forth. Such affections, if unwanted, may lead to judicial intervention, but we should not ignore the great passion inherent in the expression.
- I'm So Fucking Great!
Now's the part where I get to extol my own virtues and announce how I avoid so many more threads now than I used to. This is the part where old-timers (like me) will remember that I used to interject myself into every fucking argument on the site -- big or small, uninvited or otherwise. Over time, however, it gets to be like the "Seven Basic Story Plots" thesis: one begins to see that this story is not so unlike another one of yore. Which is why I am advocating for a total abandonment of all reading, and this is the time and place for its launch.
- Burn, Baby, Burn!
I read "The Odyssey" (Lattimore translation) -- so why the fuck should I have to read Joyce's "Ulysses"? I actually tried to read "Ulysses" four separate times, and I just can't get past the first four chapters -- the Telemachae, in English-Literature-Criticism speak. And what�s so fucked up about that is that the Telemachae isn�t even really about Poldy Bloom/Odysseus: it�s about Stephen Dedalus/Telemachus/Joyce. I hear all of the good stuff in �Ulysses� is in the later chapters, where all of the radical literary experimentation goes on (though I have to admit I heard a recording of some actress doing the �Penelope� chapter, and I got a woody).
What fucking good is it if I can�t get past the first four fucking chapters!!!! I�m sorry, Mr. Joyce, but something about your literary alter ego �- at least in this book �- is fucking boring!!!!! AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS "FINNEGAN�S WAKE" SUPPOSED TO BE??????
That kind of shit makes me want to join a certain German group of yore and have a good old fashioned, book-burnin' bonfire, if you know what I mean. (Of course, I would promptly quit the group after the marshmallows and s�mores part. What can I say?: those Germans make some damned good chocolate!)
So which of the seven story plots were involved in this latest brouhaha?1 - man vs. nature: the avatar with the romantic sheep liason.
2 - man vs. man: Sal v. Whip.
3 - man vs. the environment: bife v. the fourum.
4 - man vs. machines/technology: everyone who tried to write a post, or who actually did
5 - man vs. the supernatural: everyone who thinks that there�s a curse involved when people disappear from the site or the fourum.
6 - man vs. self: what I was doing in the bathroom just before I wrote this ( )
7 - man vs. god/religion: Goddamnit! There�s always one that doesn�t fit (no, wait, the swear word counts!) So now we know we've read it all right here. Why bother reading anything else ever again? It just hurts your eyes in bad light (at least that's what my parents said), and it leads to anti-social behavior �- witness Mein Kamf (1925), Das Kapital (1867), Up From Slavery (1901), and that Thomas Paine rag Common Sense (1776). Look at the discord it has produced in our own beloved Fourum!
Or, still yet a better idea: IF THINE EYES OFFEND THEE, ...!
Well, I hope I�ve made my case plain. I�m sorry you had to trouble yourself to read (such a loathesome word) this. The world was so much better when all I had to do was sit in my dark little room and imagine the inhumanities with which Sal and Whippy were accosting each other. I was so much happier when I could just take a few hours to dream up the explanations boydegg might give as to why any number of possible reviews should have been approved. Doesn�t anyone remember how pleasant it was, when we could secretly want to kill the MERPs, before PKMN fucked it all up and announced it in the Fourum?
So I�m just not having it anymore. I understand bife�s ... um,... beef ... probably better than he does. You see, people: I can just imagine that, without the interruption of your prying responses, and -- presto -- I�m right. And since I�m not going to read your response, there ain�t shit you can do to stop me.
bife may come back (and don�t get me wrong: I loves me some bife - often with shallots and a hearty steak sauce or barbecue), but I wont. I�m sick of you people entertaining me. FUCK YOU! I�m just going to go entertain myself (damnit: plot 6 rears its ugly head again. Well, fuck me too!)
An entertaining diatribe, may I suggest starting your next attempt at Ulysses on Chapter five. |
| thefoxboy |
Posted - 01/19/2009 : 02:25:03
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n
quote:
Originally posted by MguyX
 and
What are you smiling at tosser?
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| duh |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 18:32:19
Ah! An MguyX rant! I love these finer things in life, don't you? |
| Chris C |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 15:27:59
It's a shame that this situation has come to pass and that one of our more esteemed fellow reviewers has decided to call it a day, at least temporarily, because of the behaviour of some of our fellow reviewers. I do, though, understand where he is coming from and I have to agree with him.
I personally have no problem with anyone disagreeing with any other persons point of view. However, I think a line has to be drawn when it all starts getting personal. If I remember correctly, we had a similar episode almost 2 years ago which left a bad taste.
I could understand this a bit more if people were aged 8-12 but we are all grown adults and should know better. The last thing we need is people leaving the forum or the site because of the behaviour of a very small minority. If you want to get personal, take it in to the private messages, or just suck it up and keep it to yourself.
Anyway, 'nuff said, I'll shut up now, crawl back into my den and hope that things take a turn for the better. |
| Sean |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 04:57:39
quote:
Originally posted by MguyX
and |
| demonic |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 01:19:24
Yes. I gave up on "Ulysses" too. It would mock me and whisper behind my back with the other novels on the bookshelf until I put it in a box and into my father's attic 200 miles away. Now I can't hear it sniggering and claiming intellectual superiority, and I feel much better. This post may contain traces of allegory. |
| randall |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 01:18:19
BRAVO!!!! La ranter par excellence!!!! |
| MguyX |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 01:09:33
For anyone else who may be confused by the references, this is the thread to which our esteemed bife refers. Took a little searching, but I found it ... right under this one.
-Regrets: I've Had a Few
Well, I am sad that I missed JTC's avatar. I was hoping that it was the same avatar I first used when the Fourum came into existence (the cartoon one with the guy saying "I can explain"). Was it bife who noted back then "I knew I could count on MguyX to go over the top on this"?
- Bonfire of the Vanities
I would have been flattered, were it a reference to me or Salopian, if I were Salopian. On the one hand, I would take it as an homage to my earlier incarnation, however identical. The were-I-Salopian me would have felt similarly proud: how bold of Josh to declare an open desire to make love to me! SWEET! After all, the phrase was not "Sully_Salopian": the word "sally" means to rush or burst forth. Such affections, if unwanted, may lead to judicial intervention, but we should not ignore the great passion inherent in the expression.
- I'm So Fucking Great!
Now's the part where I get to extol my own virtues and announce how I avoid so many more threads now than I used to. This is the part where old-timers (like me) will remember that I used to interject myself into every fucking argument on the site -- big or small, uninvited or otherwise. Over time, however, it gets to be like the "Seven Basic Story Plots" thesis: one begins to see that this story is not so unlike another one of yore. Which is why I am advocating for a total abandonment of all reading, and this is the time and place for its launch.
- Burn, Baby, Burn!
I read "The Odyssey" (Lattimore translation) -- so why the fuck should I have to read Joyce's "Ulysses"? I actually tried to read "Ulysses" four separate times, and I just can't get past the first four chapters -- the Telemachae, in English-Literature-Criticism speak. And what�s so fucked up about that is that the Telemachae isn�t even really about Poldy Bloom/Odysseus: it�s about Stephen Dedalus/Telemachus/Joyce. I hear all of the good stuff in �Ulysses� is in the later chapters, where all of the radical literary experimentation goes on (though I have to admit I heard a recording of some actress doing the �Penelope� chapter, and I got a woody).
What fucking good is it if I can�t get past the first four fucking chapters!!!! I�m sorry, Mr. Joyce, but something about your literary alter ego �- at least in this book �- is fucking boring!!!!! AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS "FINNEGAN�S WAKE" SUPPOSED TO BE??????
That kind of shit makes me want to join a certain German group of yore and have a good old fashioned, book-burnin' bonfire, if you know what I mean. (Of course, I would promptly quit the group after the marshmallows and s�mores part. What can I say?: those Germans make some damned good chocolate!)
So which of the seven story plots were involved in this latest brouhaha?1 - man vs. nature: the avatar with the romantic sheep liason.
2 - man vs. man: Sal v. Whip.
3 - man vs. the environment: bife v. the fourum.
4 - man vs. machines/technology: everyone who tried to write a post, or who actually did
5 - man vs. the supernatural: everyone who thinks that there�s a curse involved when people disappear from the site or the fourum.
6 - man vs. self: what I was doing in the bathroom just before I wrote this ()
7 - man vs. god/religion: Goddamnit! There�s always one that doesn�t fit (no, wait, the swear word counts!) So now we know we've read it all right here. Why bother reading anything else ever again? It just hurts your eyes in bad light (at least that's what my parents said), and it leads to anti-social behavior �- witness Mein Kamf (1925), Das Kapital (1867), Up From Slavery (1901), and that Thomas Paine rag Common Sense (1776). Look at the discord it has produced in our own beloved Fourum!
Or, still yet a better idea: IF THINE EYES OFFEND THEE, ...!
Well, I hope I�ve made my case plain. I�m sorry you had to trouble yourself to read (such a loathesome word) this. The world was so much better when all I had to do was sit in my dark little room and imagine the inhumanities with which Sal and Whippy were accosting each other. I was so much happier when I could just take a few hours to dream up the explanations boydegg might give as to why any number of possible reviews should have been approved. Doesn�t anyone remember how pleasant it was, when we could secretly want to kill the MERPs, before PKMN fucked it all up and announced it in the Fourum?
So I�m just not having it anymore. I understand bife�s ... um,... beef ... probably better than he does. You see, people: I can just imagine that, without the interruption of your prying responses, and -- presto -- I�m right. And since I�m not going to read your response, there ain�t shit you can do to stop me.
bife may come back (and don�t get me wrong: I loves me some bife - often with shallots and a hearty steak sauce or barbecue), but I wont. I�m sick of you people entertaining me. FUCK YOU! I�m just going to go entertain myself (damnit: plot 6 rears its ugly head again. Well, fuck me too!)
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| Josh the cat |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 13:30:52
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote:
Originally posted by Josh-the-cat
Josh the cat
All I can say is I'm very glad you've renamed yourself with hyphens -- those underscores were a pain in the bu -- neck!
Hiya Baffy,
They are only there because I don't like seeing my name split on the films added by you screen it looks messy
I knew I could rely on you to see the good!
Josh the cat |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 13:03:48
quote:
Originally posted by Josh-the-cat
Josh the cat
All I can say is I'm very glad you've renamed yourself with hyphens -- those underscores were a pain in the bu -- neck!
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| Josh the cat |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 10:50:47
Copied from the other thread:-
I will approach this from a mature point of view and take blame for my actions.
I have been petty and a little foolish and would hate that my return to the site, which I left due to events here, have affected other members of the site whom I do and I don't know directly.
I did change my name twice, it was a temporary measure and have now gone back to my original.
My own personnal opinion is that I am guilty to a degree and would hate, and I know hate is a very powerful word, Hate to lose members on behalf of my or anyone elses arguing.
I will cease all disagreements I will wipe the slate clean and apologise to any whom I have offended including Salopian.
I do not want Bife, or anyone else, to leave or even be avoiding fourum due to my actions.
Sorry
I will not be leaving te site or fourum, but I will strongly moderate my posts.
Josh the cat |
| ChocolateLady |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 08:34:35
And just in case you missed it from the other thread:
quote:
I'd hate to see bife go because of this whole thing. But let's remember that neither of the people in this are saints, nor are they the devil incarnate. They are just two people who don't get along. Seems to me that there is a very simple solution.
Why don't the bickerers just decide to ignore each other on the Fourum from now on and continue to participate as they have before (minus the bad behaviour)? Each one decides and agrees to not refer or reply to the other's posts nor refer to the other person in their posts from now on. That will make things a whole lot more pleasant around here for both of them, as well as everyone else.
What do you say, boys?
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| Salopian |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 02:50:00
See my last post there though (which I made before seeing this). While I think I'm in the right, I'm still prepared to leave for a while (and I was thinking months, not a couple of weeks). |
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